And since time began, there were war profiteers. During WWII many US factories operated on essentially no profits. For instance, DuPont accepted the responsibility of building a vast nuclear facility at Hanford to generate Plutonium (breeder reactors) with a $1 profit charge!  Most of the large war factories function on a cost plus basis and the plus was small. There did not really exist an industrial-military complex in the USA during the war. At the end, the same factories when back to manufacturing cars, refrigerators, consumer items in general. The ideal of America was that once the war was over things would get back to normal-the good life.  The war did liberate America from the burden of the depression, largely because liquidity increased and people had the money to spend.  The same idea existed after WWI, the nation wanted nothing more to do with war. Wars are not generally good for economies. They spend borrowed money in wasteful ways.   And infrastructures ignored. Why wage war with another country?  Do you wage war because you believe that is what has to be done to accomplish some goal, or do you wage war because it may affect the economy of your country?  Was the Second Workd War bad for the economy of the United States, or is it partly responsible for energizing our economy?

Why wage war with another country?  Do you wage war because you believe that is what has to be done to accomplish some goal, or do you wage war because it may affect the economy of your country?  Was the Second Workd War bad for the economy of the United States, or is it partly responsible for energizing our economy? It was bad for most economies as the war occurred. During the war the economy was not good.  After the war things were not great during the later 1940s.  Then the economy clicked in in the 19-50s. America warred in the WWII because it was forced to, it was a reluctant warrior. The war in Iraq is a war of choice.

From: Jerry Okamura < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:43:50 -1000 Subject: Re: Invitation to Steal: War Profiteering in Iraq Why wage war with another country?  Do you wage war because you believe that is what has to be done to accomplish some goal, or do you wage war because it may affect the economy of your country?  Was the Second Workd War bad for the economy of the United States, or is it partly responsible for energizing our economy? The relationship between war and economics is complicated.  It is true that the Second World War brought the United States out of the great depression of the 1930s.  But this was not the reason that World War II was fought, it was because of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which was a declaration of war by Japan, followed by the declaration of war by Hitler, who, for once, honored a treaty he had signed with another power.  The result of these declarations of war did energize the economy.  Everyone was mobilized in this effort, housewives who did home canning, saved fats and turned them in to the butcher, knitted afghans for the wounded.  Children who bought savings stamps each week at school.  The whole population which submitted to rationing of gasoline and sugar, and put up with shortages of other things like eggs. Unfortunately, in subsequent wars, including the current one in Iraq, there was none of this kind of energizing.  President Bush did not ask for sacrifices, he asked that everyone go out on a shopping spree at the mall. I would really like to be able to pinpoint the moment in American history when shopping became a recreational sport, mainly for women.  It certainly wasn't during World War II. Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -

Why wage war with another country?  Do you wage war because you believe that is what has to be done to accomplish some goal, or do you wage war because it may affect the economy of your country?  Was the Second Workd War bad for the economy of the United States, or is it partly responsible for energizing our economy? It was bad for most economies as the war occurred. During the war the economy was not good.  After the war things were not great during the later 1940s.  Then the economy clicked in in the 19-50s. America warred in the WWII because it was forced to, it was a reluctant warrior. The war in Iraq is a war of choice. Let me suggest that all WARS are a matter of choice.

Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 05:43:50 -1000 Subject: Re: Invitation to Steal: War Profiteering in Iraq Why wage war with another country?  Do you wage war because you believe that is what has to be done to accomplish some goal, or do you wage war because it may affect the economy of your country?  Was the Second Workd War bad for the economy of the United States, or is it partly responsible for energizing our economy? The relationship between war and economics is complicated.  It is true that the Second World War brought the United States out of the great depression of the 1930s.  But this was not the reason that World War II was fought, it was because of the attack on Pearl Harbor, which was a declaration of war by Japan, followed by the declaration of war by Hitler, who, for once, honored a treaty he had signed with another power.  The result of these declarations of war did energize the economy.  Everyone was mobilized in this effort, housewives who did home canning, saved fats and turned them in to the butcher, knitted afghans for the wounded.  Children who bought savings stamps each week at school.  The whole population which submitted to rationing of gasoline and sugar, and put up with shortages of other things like eggs. Unfortunately, in subsequent wars, including the current one in Iraq, there was none of this kind of energizing.  President Bush did not ask for sacrifices, he asked that everyone go out on a shopping spree at the mall. I would really like to be able to pinpoint the moment in American history when shopping became a recreational sport, mainly for women.  It certainly wasn't during World War II. Let me suggest that the sacrifices that leaders ask of their citizens, depends on the sacrifices that need to be made in order to win the war.  If the sacrifices are not needed (in the eyes of a leader) they will not ask for what they believe is not required.

From: Jerry Okamura < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Newsgroups: alt.activism.death-penalty,soc.retirement Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 13:48:17 -1000 Subject: Re: Invitation to Steal: War Profiteering in Iraq Let me suggest that the sacrifices that leaders ask of their citizens, depends on the sacrifices that need to be made in order to win the war.  If the sacrifices are not needed (in the eyes of a leader) they will not ask for what they believe is not required. Sacrifices are very unpopular, and most leaders - of both parties, BTW - don't have the courage ot ask for them. Donna Evleth - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text -