I couldn't believe this article was for real, but it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/09/29/birth_mother/index.html

Subject: Courting a Birthmother From: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it  (ChosenChildInc) Date: 9/29/00 10:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it I couldn't believe this article was for real, but it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/09/29/birth_mother/index.html This was absolutely disgusting. The sad thing is the pap hasn't a clue as to why she cannot find a seller. Ugh!

From: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it  (Kathy) Date: 9/29/00 9:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Subject: Courting a Birthmother From: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it  (ChosenChildInc) Date: 9/29/00 10:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it I couldn't believe this article was for real, but it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/09/29/birth_mother/index.html This was absolutely disgusting. The sad thing is the pap hasn't a clue as to why she cannot find a seller. Ugh! Not that stupidity is an excuse for anything, but these people really are dumber than dirt when it comes to adoption. They just listen to the lawyer, go against their 'better' judgment and run with it. I don't think these people want to fuck with anyone's head, they are just getting some conventional wisdom. - Hide quoted text -- Show quoted text - Susan Fanaticism consists of redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.  

From: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it  (Kathy) Date: 9/29/00 9:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time Message-id: < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it Subject: Courting a Birthmother From: This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it  (ChosenChildInc) Date: 9/29/00 10:02 AM Pacific Daylight Time Message-id: < This e-mail address is being protected from spam bots, you need JavaScript enabled to view it I couldn't believe this article was for real, but it is !!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://salon.com/mwt/feature/2000/09/29/birth_mother/index.html This was absolutely disgusting. The sad thing is the pap hasn't a clue as to why she cannot find a seller. Ugh! Not that stupidity is an excuse for anything, but these people really are dumber than dirt when it comes to adoption. They just listen to the lawyer, go against their 'better' judgment and run with it. I don't think these people want to fuck with anyone's head, they are just getting some conventional wisdom. I've posted the article below.  I'd have to agree with you, Susan, she's stupid and clueless but not deliberately cruel or disgusting.  I actually feel some pity for her.  Go fig.                           Dating                                             the birth                                             mother                                             Before you                                             adopt a baby,                                             you've got to                                             sweep Mom                         off her feet.                         - - - - - - - - - - - -                         By Caroline Leavitt                         Sept. 29, 2000 | Two years after the                         birth of our son, Max, my husband,                         Jeff, and I began yearning for another                         baby. Because we couldn't have any                         more children, we wanted to try to                         adopt domestically, figuring it would be                         easier to get a newborn that way. We                         spent hours imagining our life with a                         new baby in it and finally decided to                         hire an adoption lawyer.                         We find a guy who is smart and funny                         and has adopted kids of his own.                         Think of me as the matchmaker, he                         tells us. He will find someone for us                         through referrals and ads he wants us                         to place in newspapers across the                         country. There are all kinds of birth                         mothers, he says, all kinds of adoptive                         parents, too. A cover for every pot,                         he jokes. To help birth mothers decide                         in our favor, he wants us to write a                         letter about ourselves, to make a family                         scrapbook. Think of it like a personal                         ad, he urges.                         He gives us samples to go                         by

I've posted the article below.  I'd have to agree with you, Susan, she's stupid and clueless but not deliberately cruel or disgusting.  I actually feel some pity for her.  Go fig. [article snipped] Hmmmm, I just know I'm going to get flamed for this. Ah well, can't be worse than usual! For the life of me, I can't figure out what's stupid and clueless, let alone what's cruel or disgusting. What this woman writes is, in the end, a near stream-of-consciousness, a diary, about her experience. She sounds a lot like a number of aparents and pre-aparents I know with her hopes and fears. Most all of them turned out to be excellent aparents, sensitive, reasonable, etc. Does anyone expect her to be stone-hearted about this process? Just sit there like a lump? Conversely, do we expect her to be gnashing her teeth and rending her garments over the pain and anguish of the pre-birthmothers? She sounds pretty reasonable, actually, not at all the prototypical fetus-snatcher. [1] She's willing to exchange photos and visits. She learns to listen. She learns to talk with the birthmothers. For some reason, we accept that there's a learning curve for bparents and for adoptees, but not for aparents. You don't necessarily start off with all the compassion, education and sensitivity of an alt.adoption aparent [2] on day one. You learn as you go along with the issues are, how people feel, what the hot buttons are. So someone educate me on this one: what's stupid and clueless about this woman? steve [1] gads, I hate that term. [2] the good ones, of course. reply to: steve[no space]white at mediaone dot net

So someone educate me on this one: what's stupid and clueless about this woman? She doesn't believe what everyone here thinks she should.  Isn't that enough?   Back to sleep. Jeannette, Bmom There ain't no answer. There ain't going to be any answer. There never has been an answer. That's the answer. Gertrude Stein (1874-1946)