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rbwinn <
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wrote in message - Show quoted text - Well, the difference between fiction and truth is that Harry Potter did not depart from a train station in London to go to the wizard's school. ?There was no Harry Potter. ? However, Jesus Christ did go to the synagogue at Nazareth and read from the book of Isaiah.
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(snip) But we know your offer is disingenuous anyway. And by the way, forget the KJV, I have three copies, not including a text copy of the original 1611 version, and all the various revisions todate. Well, as I said, I could send you a copy of the Bible. Let me know if you want one. Robert B. Winn Not me. Read it before, and it sucks as novels go. Goes on and on about meaningless shit that doesn't add to the story. It doesn't even try to be realistic. David Eddings is less predictable. Al Reading the Bible does require a lot of looking beyond the simplistic literal stories, and this seems to balk some readers. But, those simplistic literal stories were about as far as primitive people could go, and even today's uneducated people find the simplistic story level quite acceptable. However, we with a formal education and an inquiring mind can easily work our way through the stories and ferret out the deeper meaning...if we choose to do so. Or, we can reject the whole thing. It is a volitional choice. Gordon So you believe what you THINK the bible says, not what it ACTUALLY says. How convenient that you can think it means whatever you want it to. Reading the Illiad (or whatever ancient work of fiction you chose) does require a lot of looking beyond the simplistic literal stories, and this seems to balk some readers. But, those simplistic literal stories were about as far as primitive people could go, and even today's uneducated people find the simplistic story level quite acceptable. However, we with a formal education and an inquiring mind can easily work our way through the stories and ferret out the deeper meaning...if we choose to do so. Or, we can reject the whole thing. It is a volitional choice. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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And so it was a surprise when the Assyrians just left, leaving 186,000 dead soldiers behind. A lot of work to do, getting rid of all of those dead bodies, but it was better than having them come over the city wall alive. But you also have to consider the fact that when this happened, the Assyrian Empire extended from the Caspian Sea clear into Egypt. Judea was just a little dot in the middle of this vast Empire. Why didn't Sennacherib just go get some more soldiers and do it again if all that happened was some sickness? He definitely did not come back. ============ How about you read up on the history of warfare? Not only is the figure of 186,000 so incredibly and excessively large as to be utterly unbelievable. By comparison, Alexander the Great invaded and conquered the Persian empire with around 40,000 troops. Julius Caesar conquered Gaul with 30,000 men. Put simply, the logistics of putting a force of 186,000 men in the field were quite beyond any ancient empire, let alone to supply and support an invading army. As for disease, where do you think Sennacherib would have gone for more soldiers? The local employment agency? You must be quite an optimist, asking him to 'think'. Smiler, The godless one a.a.# 2279
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rbwinn <
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wrote in message And so it was a surprise when the Assyrians just left, leaving 186,000 dead soldiers behind. A lot of work to do, getting rid of all of those dead bodies, but it was better than having them come over the city wall alive. But you also have to consider the fact that when this happened, the Assyrian Empire extended from the Caspian Sea clear into Egypt. Judea was just a little dot in the middle of this vast Empire. Why didn't Sennacherib just go get some more soldiers and do it again if all that happened was some sickness? He definitely did not come back. ============ How about you read up on the history of warfare? Not only is the figure of 186,000 so incredibly and excessively large as to be utterly unbelievable. By comparison, Alexander the Great invaded and conquered the Persian empire with around 40,000 troops. Julius Caesar conquered Gaul with 30,000 men. Put simply, the logistics of putting a force of 186,000 men in the field were quite beyond any ancient empire, let alone to supply and support an invading army. As for disease, where do you think Sennacherib would have gone for more soldiers? The local employment agency? Do you honestly believe Robbie is going to accept reality over his bible?
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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:24:48 -0700 (PDT), rbwinn <
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wrote in alt.atheism: ... No, the Biblical account seems all in order to me. ?There is a ramp built by the Assyrian army over the wall at Lachish. ?There is a tunnel from Gihon spring to the Pool of Siloam exactly where three books of the Bible say it is. ?People can go to Israel and see both of these things today. ?So what is the problem that atheists see with Hezekiah's tunnel and the earthen ramp over the wall at Lachish? So, your argument tells us that the Trojan war happened exactly as Homer tells us because we found physical evidence that Troy existed. Thank you. I have not said a word about the Trojan war. � �You seem to be trying to put words into my mouth. You implicitly said that every single mythological document is true if it is supported by some fact. You have told us that you do not have standards of proof, that is your choice, but the consequence is that your argument forces you to accept every claim about every god in the world. Is it that hard to grasp? Does he really think we believe in young wizards but not gods?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Several atheists have told me that Harry Potter departed from the train station in London to go to wizard's school. And that is exactly what the author of the books wrote. And although we know you are being dishonest and pretending you do not understand the point, the fact that there is a train station in London does not make the stories in the Harry Potter books true nor Harry Potter real. Most sane people understand that. But they also understand that in the same way just because there is a tunnel in Jerusalem that is described in the bible, it does not mean those stories are true either.
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wrote in message I don't think we'd like the same music. God may have the dancers, but the devil has all the decent musos. Oh, I don't know. I freely admit to succumbing to the lure of good music in churches
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