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which of _my_ states corresponds to the state of the finnish line (who apparently has the most to do with this assertion) observing the first runner crossing it ; which of _your_ states corresponds to that state of the finnish line, etc. Having obtained this calibration, we might go on to derive pairwise distance from that (e.g. through Einstein's associated distance definition); we might find that one or the other observer pair moved wrt. each other in the course of the run (most of all each runner wrt. the finnish line , perhaps). Further, having obtained those coordinate relations and using them as constraints in a problem of variational calculus, we could calculate the most probable potential in the region of this experiment, as it is sampled by each observer individually (e.g., given enough measured constraints, we might find that the track let's the runners bounce off throughout the race, etc.). At least that's the procedure being conducted in QFT. The Lorentz equations ... a.k.a. Lorentz transformations , IIUC ... are an approximation. They do not give an absolute depiction of reality. An approximation wrt. which other measured quantities? How, if not through the Einstein procedures, do you suggest to obtain a depiction of reality which (being reality) should be reproducible/understandable by all others? Frank,     I have no idea what you are doing with four dimensions.  I have no way of even visualizing it.  I use three dimensions.  One thing that is obvious using three dimensions is that  four dimensions have you overlooking some very obvious facts.    First of all, all clocks in a _frame_ of reference will agree with one another.  Now you say that from another _frame_ of reference they do not using the Lorentz equations.  What difference does that make?    The value of t is measured from the _frame_ of reference in which it exists , not from another _frame_ of reference.  Any clock in a _frame_ of reference can be put next to an event and will show the time of that event, and, secondly, will agree with all other clocks in that _frame_ of reference, assuming all clocks are operating correctly. Robert B. Winn
 
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